Feb 24, 2006, 10:26 PM // 22:26
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#21
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: Guild of Dawn
Profession: R/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spenser_For_Hire
useless elites, lets see
-skull crack, i have been trying like crazy to keep this skill from sucking, its not possible
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I love skull crack. It's a great skill when you're farming with 2 people, as you can take out the casters
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Feb 24, 2006, 10:27 PM // 22:27
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#22
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Seattle
Guild: Faces of Death [Tye]
Profession: R/W
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In all fairness, if you arent using 3 other adrenaline based skills, cleave is better than eviscerate. It could be deducted from the calculations that the damage difference between these two skills is negligable, and that you could effectively use which ever one you liked more. Personally, I like cleave more, because I can use it every third hit, and those other 2 hits can be cyclone axe or swift chop. Also, being an R/W makes the energy cost of those skills negligable, making cleave an excedingly better choice than eviscerate.
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Feb 25, 2006, 10:56 AM // 10:56
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#23
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Uk,Wales
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u see some elites justarn't for farming + pvp ... rmember there is pve missions :P
mursaat monk boss = owwwnnzz!!!!
.....warrior comes along and uses skull crack on orisen of healing
mursaat monk boss = screwed
every elite skill has a use
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Feb 25, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27
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#24
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...
Guild: Frank Ought To Monk [FotM]
Profession: W/
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Skull crack cn be so fun. Have a mesmer cast Fevered Dreams, then skull crak in a group of casters. so much fun....
Life Transfer: Why the HECK do you think that somewhere around 800 necro's are using this skill in radom arenas? NOOBS CARRY NO HEX REMOVAL.
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Feb 26, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26
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#25
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Storm Bearers[SB]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jancid Brennberg
I disagree on Spenser_For_Hires list.
Peace And Harmony - Nice for a monk who needs energy. I can't see, why it sucks.
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Clearly you've never seen a PvP thread about energy management. PnH sucks ass(not the guild )
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jancid Brennberg
Life Transfer - added Degen can't be sucking.
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Spamming Life Siphon on everyone is much more effective than Life Transfer. Also with Siphon you can use Offering of Blood, actually a good energy management skill.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jancid Brennberg
Skull Crack - Nice Elite. It's an interrupt, which allows for 15s to interrupt way better. Ever seen a monk needing 1,5s for Mark of Protection?
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You can't interrupt shit with it because it's so slow. Also Daze is a condition so it's easily removed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jancid Brennberg
Cleave - great skill, spammlike adrenalin support, now deep wound (which is an ADVANTAGE when fighting necros), good damage.
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"When fighting necros" WTF? Warriors are supposed to actually spike, so Evis+Exec works pretty damn well because of DW and bigger dmg than Cleave.
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Feb 26, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40
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#26
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Canada, Qc
Guild: [Holy]
Profession: Me/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xasew
"When fighting necros" WTF? Warriors are supposed to actually spike, so Evis+Exec works pretty damn well because of DW and bigger dmg than Cleave.
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*COUGH* Plague Touch *COUGH*
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Feb 27, 2006, 04:07 AM // 04:07
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#27
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: California, USA
Guild: Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")
Profession: Mo/E
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Hmm. Kinda turned into an Eviscerate vs. Cleave debate. Weird.
Anywhoo, i been doing fun mesmer builds in RA. Mostly Domination spiking, all while trying random elites, like Keystone sig. This one is truely lame. I been trying to load up the bar with all sigs, then use em all, end with Keystone, and start combo again. 30 sec recharge on Keystone is killer though! ugh!
But combos can be fun, with Necro sigs.. ill try and figure out a more useful build rather then "fun" heh... enjoy!
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Feb 27, 2006, 04:59 AM // 04:59
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#28
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Canada, Qc
Guild: [Holy]
Profession: Me/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
But combos can be fun, with Necro sigs.. ill try and figure out a more useful build rather then "fun" heh... enjoy!
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Talk about necro. Grenth Balance, Rare to see one with that skill. Really a cheap shot spell to gain HP when you are near death.
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Feb 27, 2006, 05:04 AM // 05:04
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#29
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Quite Vulgar [FUN]
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At least Keystone sig has some use. Dwarven battle stance isn't worth using even if it wasn't an elite.
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Feb 27, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16
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#30
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(屮ಠ益ಠ)屮
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hong Kong
Guild: Guildless
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LuxA
My contribution to the list: Signet of Judgment
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Signet of Judgement is Teh PWNAGE!!! MWHAHAHA
Fine, it's my gimmick...
Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
u see some elites justarn't for farming + pvp ... rmember there is pve missions :P
mursaat monk boss = owwwnnzz!!!!
.....warrior comes along and uses skull crack on orisen of healing
mursaat monk boss = screwed
every elite skill has a use
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Come on, Skull Crack takes minimum .89 seconds to use (/per swing), and Orison has a cast time of 1.
My Mantra of Recovery build
OH FINE, IT'S TOTALLY RANDOM...SO WHAT? Heehee...
Me/E
Fast Casting: 10 +3 +1
Domination: 10 +1
Air Magic: 11
Chain Lightning
Mantra of Recovery {E}
Lightning Strike
Energy Burn
Cry of Frustration
Arcane Echo
Gale
Resurrection Signet
Focus swap once a while. Or,
Fast Casting: 10 +3 +1
Inspiration: 10 +1
Air Magic: 11
Chain Lightning
Mantra of Recovery {E}
Lightning Strike
Energy Tap
Power Drain
Arcane Echo
Gale
Resurrection Signet
Also focus swap once a while.
edit: oops, typo.
Last edited by LightningHell; Feb 27, 2006 at 02:23 PM // 14:23..
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Feb 27, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11
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#31
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: www.talkingtonoobs.com
Guild: Final Dynasty
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Bull's Charge is a horrible skill. If you strafe away from the Warrior he won't knock you down. And if you don't kite, then he's standing there with no IAS and he can't use any other skills. If he does use any other skills, he's wasted his elite, because that's when you start kiting.
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Mar 03, 2006, 12:10 AM // 00:10
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#32
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: sc
Profession: N/Mo
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wellll life transfer is actually some use since it both degen and regen i would say its healing breeze and life siphon together lets just say a war atks u and ur down to les than half hp u can use life transfer AND life siphon and get a total of +9 health regen and ur enemy is getting -9 health degen
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Mar 03, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14
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#33
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Seattle
Guild: Faces of Death [Tye]
Profession: R/W
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Can we atleast say that cleave and eviscerate are equally good, and that they have their own scenarios in which they excel? It seems reasonable to me.
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Mar 03, 2006, 05:18 AM // 05:18
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#34
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Communistwealth of Virginia
Guild: Uninstalled
Profession: W/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
Dwarven battle stance isn't worth using even if it wasn't an elite.
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Amen, brutha, amen! That's one Elite I NEVER intend to make an effort to cap.
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Mar 03, 2006, 11:48 AM // 11:48
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#35
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Forge Runner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos
CA build
W/Mo
11 smite
16 hammer (helm + superior)
6-8 strength (minor)
1-2 prot
Hammer bash
Crushing blow
Holy strike
Iresistable blow
Bull's charge [E]
mend aliment
Strength of honor
res signet
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They just made one of my favor CA build into a killing machine with the 3/3/06 update.
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